tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14473417.post2832935849993680300..comments2024-03-28T03:31:42.278-07:00Comments on Chiron: Knowing Full WellRoryhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08483616030072739190noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14473417.post-86462926608961850042013-12-07T21:10:59.813-08:002013-12-07T21:10:59.813-08:00You're an empiricist in a world of ideologists...You're an empiricist in a world of ideologists. I ship it. Kai Joneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13319136737099550784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14473417.post-89169669418621801712013-12-06T08:32:50.211-08:002013-12-06T08:32:50.211-08:00Ah ok. yes indeed why would someone do that? But t...Ah ok. yes indeed why would someone do that? But they do it all the time! People want to drink the kool aid and take the blue pill all the time.<br /><br />There have been a number of "lost" ancient arts in Europe. one is supposed to have been handed down in a family and a small area in Scandinavia from the time of the Vikings. The man who decided to make his family style public happened to have lived before doing so in Japan for a number of years, and had a high level in Aikido. Many people are therefore rather surprised at how much this ancient Scandinavian art looks just like Aikido.The European Historical Combat Guildhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02425115205496881300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14473417.post-2189862871238584052013-12-06T01:27:44.625-08:002013-12-06T01:27:44.625-08:00anon: Plenty. Many new jujitsu and ninjitsu styles...anon: Plenty. Many new jujitsu and ninjitsu styles, but also others, the founders of which sort of reverse-engeneered the styles. Here in Hungary, it's especially rare to find authentic jitsu lineages.<br /><br />TEHCG: That's not what I meant. I meant that why would we codify and dogmatize something to the extent of excluding techniques and practices because it won't fit into "art". My favourite example is teakwondo: a stlye omitting hand strikes and grappling, with instructors claiming it a complete and combat-effective system.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18252994838965155356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14473417.post-5581641235702705322013-12-05T11:18:10.167-08:002013-12-05T11:18:10.167-08:00"if you find an art with 2000 years of histor..."if you find an art with 2000 years of history that was invented from pure imagination in the last half century"<br /><br />???<br /><br />Which arts are these?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14473417.post-17075148619618834072013-12-05T09:29:08.546-08:002013-12-05T09:29:08.546-08:00It was in the Art and a Science in the past, or pr...It was in the Art and a Science in the past, or practice and theory.<br />Many of the books written on the subject in the Renaissance talk about it that way.<br />The science is the Principles and Concepts and the Art is using those to create something, the practice of it.The European Historical Combat Guildhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02425115205496881300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14473417.post-67188188731683232852013-12-05T07:54:01.772-08:002013-12-05T07:54:01.772-08:00Sometimes I wonder, why do we bother with martial ...Sometimes I wonder, why do we bother with martial arts anyway? For sport and fun, OK, but for combat? Why would you want to learn an art that worked for someone else sometime in the past, possibly under different circumstances, legally, ethically etc... Not to mention all the useless shit you have to buy (gi, belt, hakama you never use utside the dojo) While combat is complex, it's not complicated. There are just systems trying to distrupt or destroy other systems. Combat is governed by anatomy and physics. Those do not change. Why is combat an art, not science? Maybe because carrying the legacy of the samurai/ninja/viking/whatever has much appeal to the monkey?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18252994838965155356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14473417.post-81150776747742856682013-12-05T03:01:15.530-08:002013-12-05T03:01:15.530-08:00if it is being sold to me as "I am the way yo...if it is being sold to me as "I am the way you will find the answers" then my alarms start going off. Some sell it better with "the answer is in you..." but then we get the "and I am the one that can get you there" <br /><br /> The European Historical Combat Guildhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02425115205496881300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14473417.post-73610124503778186792013-12-05T02:02:28.353-08:002013-12-05T02:02:28.353-08:00I am lucky/unlucky enough to be involved in both Z...I am lucky/unlucky enough to be involved in both Zen and tai chi: it's hard to think of two practices that have been more misunderstood...I find it much easier to spot the bullshit in tai chi (of course my own training is spot on!), less so in zen, simply because it has been mythed about in so many different ways, through different cultures and cultural filters. Korean, vietnamese,chinese or japanese? Rinzai or soto? Institutional or iconoclast? These are just some of the pivot points... The search for authenticity is endless....with tai chi, if they cant move effectively but think they can, i can write it off as nonsense.Nickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12933993971576680016noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14473417.post-13518481811261702632013-12-04T08:39:17.400-08:002013-12-04T08:39:17.400-08:00Re: Zen. There's an interesting new book calle...Re: Zen. There's an interesting new book called The Zen Predator of the Upper East Side about a Zen teacher who has made a career of exploiting, for his own extensive sociopathic profit, the delusional expectations of his students about Zen. One of the former students of this guy said that in the end, what he learned after leaving the teacher was that "although the teacher may be a liar, zazen is not a liar." I like that. Adamnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14473417.post-66004154385654304612013-12-04T08:34:03.523-08:002013-12-04T08:34:03.523-08:00The basic distinction between infatuation and love...<i>The basic distinction between infatuation and love is that with infatuation, you have to explain that every pimple is really a beauty mark and in love, you can see the blemishes without your feelings changing.</i><br /><br />Related: Have you noticed that the easiest way to insult someone is simply to tell them a bare and obvious truth?paxhttp://www.corneredcat.com/scratching-post/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14473417.post-2207016383705282102013-12-04T02:34:16.315-08:002013-12-04T02:34:16.315-08:00Was just commenting on something similar, how can ...Was just commenting on something similar, how can you trust anything someone says about the skills they practice, when the thing they say they are doing looks nothing like the thing they are modelling.<br />Yes some of it is having the eyes to see as they say, and much of that is exposure, experience and thinking laterally and critically... But I have have seen too much where as you say people don't want to see, they want the Walt Disney version of the fairytale not the original. Ignorance is bliss, and many people seek out bliss, even when they know it's really just ignorance, drink the kool aid and take the blue pill.The European Historical Combat Guildhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02425115205496881300noreply@blogger.com