tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14473417.post3398148313883815250..comments2024-03-28T03:31:42.278-07:00Comments on Chiron: ResponsibilityRoryhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08483616030072739190noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14473417.post-48238702844338209142010-09-29T20:46:53.650-07:002010-09-29T20:46:53.650-07:00Once an attack happens, it is hard not to think ab...Once an attack happens, it is hard not to think about the perp, but if you only think about this in the context of some attack that actually happens, then it clouds the issue. Life is about probabilities mostly. Try to think about it in terms of choices you make <i>regardless</i> of the outcome in any one case. Has someone you loved ever said to you something like, "What were you thinking??? Don't you know you could have been killed???" At least you could imagine this, I'm sure. It's about whatever kind of responsibility <i>that</i> is.Mike H.https://www.blogger.com/profile/10220161743614973531noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14473417.post-21870526250047792462010-09-29T04:38:32.232-07:002010-09-29T04:38:32.232-07:00Don't get me wrong -- I'm a huge proponent...Don't get me wrong -- I'm a huge proponent for self responsibility. But I still can't shake the irritating feeling that the whole "you should've known better" inherently excuses the criminal for his/her behavior. After all, it's just a fact of life -- a law of nature -- not something that SHOULD be reformed, resolved, or evolved away from, right? Right?<br /><br />My point: There is a difference between acknowledging criminality and submitting to its presence.Tiffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14353406161801417939noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14473417.post-34698460086323462622010-09-27T22:08:55.526-07:002010-09-27T22:08:55.526-07:00Ahh - but - criminals are NOT responsible for thei...Ahh - but - criminals are NOT responsible for their actions and we have a trillion dollar criminal justice system that is designed to hold the victim accountable and excuse the criminal his actions. The police? Resource providers. Jail? A vacation. All anyone has to do to have life-long care - food, clothing, shelter, medical and all the drugs they can handle, is to commit a violent crime. The only thing that keeps criminals from really taking advantage of all the help society offers is - they're mostly dumb asses. Thankfully, jails and prisons have very expensive and skilled counseling staff to enlighten them and hook them up with services. So, it is ESSENTIAL you have a anti-victim mind-set. How? Rory has spoken eloquently about this, but to summarize: awareness of the ways criminals think and act ("scripts"), knowing your strengths and limitations, and PAYING ATTENTION to your instincts.Macnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14473417.post-36713378644069916232010-09-27T18:37:27.881-07:002010-09-27T18:37:27.881-07:00Do we need a qualification on this? Adult, of soun...Do we need a qualification on this? Adult, of sound mind, maybe? Because children and feeble-minded folks maybe don't slot?Steve Perryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12079658447270792228noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14473417.post-65846009094594763912010-09-27T18:26:29.210-07:002010-09-27T18:26:29.210-07:00I've tried to make this point many times, and ...I've tried to make this point many times, and I have found that it is really hard for people to understand when there is a sympathetic victim involved. People are all hung up in "rights" and how things "should be" that they don't want to acknowledge the truth. Power must be respected, regardless of whether it is animate, inanimate, licit, illicit, confronted, avoided, or fled. <br /><br />I am reminded of the USPS Express Mail delivery guarantee. It's sort of like the "guarantee" that civilization offers you, only stronger. Suppose you have a package that must get somewhere overnight, and that if it doesn't arrive the next day it will cost you thousands of dollars. If the USPS fails to get it there overnight, they will refund your <i>postage</i>.Mike H.https://www.blogger.com/profile/10220161743614973531noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14473417.post-78779539489378708302010-09-27T08:12:28.944-07:002010-09-27T08:12:28.944-07:00Hi, Mr.Miller: Is this tantamount to the Dunning-K...Hi, Mr.Miller: Is this tantamount to the Dunning-Krueger effect Kris Wilder talks about on his latest posting?Charles Jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13812618556413423872noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14473417.post-73811267138298992332010-09-26T23:54:30.054-07:002010-09-26T23:54:30.054-07:00Food for thought Rory, and a meaty meal it is.
Bo...Food for thought Rory, and a meaty meal it is.<br /><br />Both the words "blame" and "victim" are complicated here. Historically (especially legally) the concept of "blaming the victim" is important to look at, but perhaps "punishing the victim" would be a more precise way to phrase it.<br /><br />I have to say that I've always disliked the whole ideology of victimhood to begin with. It's the kind of language I want to use to crusade on behalf of others, but to apply to myself? F*** that.<br /><br />As far as rights are concerned, I think many forget that any "rights" we hold are simply agreements. But consensus reality only works as long as everyone's on the same page.<br /><br />On the other hand... how old are you supposed to be before you figure out that water is wet? And can you tell someone that, especially - say - a teenager - and expect them to actually listen? Or do they have to nearly drown first?<br /><br />My youthful reckless behavior obviously didn't get me killed, here I am writing this. And I didn't engage in it with the idea that I had a "right" to. It was more of a "stop me if you can" attitude. Not that uncommon.<br /><br />But like many other women's self-defense teachers, I would really really like to prevent the shit from piling down on others. Who I really want to teach? It's those that for whatever reason (inexperience, or they think they're immortal, or they're self-destructive) don't care enough about their own safety. And that is something that I don't believe can be taught.Gwynnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14473417.post-69616594239341521512010-09-26T10:47:26.869-07:002010-09-26T10:47:26.869-07:00It ain't a nerf world.
If you want to live in...It ain't a nerf world.<br /><br />If you want to live in a nerf world... Well, you're not someone I want to spend much time with.<br /><br />And if you don't want to accept the risks that come with living in a non-nerf world, you're not someone I can play with. I've got scars and sprains and other injuries from things as mild as riding a bike, to as extreme as being swept off my feet so smoothly that I recognized my own feet in front of my face before I hit the ground... or knew what was happening.<br /><br />I never have understood all these people that want to live a bubble wrap covered nerf world... It's so dull!jks9199noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14473417.post-21002333979510289212010-09-26T07:14:32.759-07:002010-09-26T07:14:32.759-07:00Was difficult for me to read, but necessary. Grea...Was difficult for me to read, but necessary. Great post. Thanks, Rory.Tiffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14353406161801417939noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14473417.post-61543854516836065862010-09-26T06:29:16.016-07:002010-09-26T06:29:16.016-07:00AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Lise Steenersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05040510534717038918noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14473417.post-43564268104150424542010-09-26T03:17:53.330-07:002010-09-26T03:17:53.330-07:00"Blame" is a great title. It's funny..."Blame" is a great title. It's funny how we hide behind titles when the truth becomes uncomfortable.Cpl Hall (urzu_seven@yahoo.com)noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14473417.post-43433610610679770262010-09-25T22:53:45.849-07:002010-09-25T22:53:45.849-07:00Ah, sigh, the dying art of self responsibility. I...Ah, sigh, the dying art of self responsibility. I go hoarse chanting the mantra of self responsibility. If every human on this earth practiced rabid self responsibility,.... what a great world we could create.Deborah Clemhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14604981032804601694noreply@blogger.com