tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14473417.post6048567865750725..comments2024-03-28T03:31:42.278-07:00Comments on Chiron: Teaching for ChaosRoryhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08483616030072739190noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14473417.post-49639748551679684482009-10-26T16:39:33.181-07:002009-10-26T16:39:33.181-07:00And there we have it; the perfect definition of Aw...And there we have it; the perfect definition of Awareneness-based training. I knew if you hit yourself in the head long enough with the hammer of metaphor, it would all become clear: "We explore and I point out what I see and you tell me what you sense."Machttp://quantum-martialarts.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14473417.post-59166875917101722372009-10-26T13:08:46.296-07:002009-10-26T13:08:46.296-07:00It is interesting,this-your experience in jail is ...It is interesting,this-your experience in jail is vastly different with what a normal citizen will experience, and I think the key difference is tied to "permission."<br /><br />In jail, there was little question of the context of your use of force. As a normal person on the street, the issue is more-muddled. <br /><br />I have been lucky-I have never been the target of a predatory attack, at least not one that actually occurred. (There are a couple times where I believe I was able to avoid an attack through basic alertness. But, since no actual attack occurred that is hard to prove.)<br /><br />Reaction to a predatory attack (if one can react, if the attack is not so sudden and effective that surprise was complete and you are screwed before you can defend yourself) is one thing. Both legally and morally any level of force is allowed. <br /><br />On the other hand, use of force in what is not a predatory attack-is not lawful, and has legal and moral implications. The trained restraint against violence is, in social situations, a good one yes?<br /><br />So the issue of permission comes up. A person who is not restrained from violence will soon end up in legal trouble. A person who is too restrained is a ready made victim for violent predation. Clearly there is a tension here, so the question raises-how do you train a student to recognize a situation where violence is appropriate-and when restraint is needed?<br /><br />It seems to me that this is a key and vital issue in training for self defense. --R.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14473417.post-77743520975462839092009-10-24T21:22:23.266-07:002009-10-24T21:22:23.266-07:00As someone who has never faced violence of this na...As someone who has never faced violence of this nature, I find some comfort in the terrible chaos and uncertainty in Mr. Miller's position. I may be an anomoly however. The fact that an experienced professional is uncertain that in the moment he will do something useful means that the chaos is not under the control of the assailant. It implies to me that if I can disrupt the assailant's plan (or frame of mind, or OODA cycle), then that individual is now in a similar chaotic mess to mine. No one can be certain of getting their original goal.<br /><br />But then again, that just might be another way of saying that I am confident that if I take an aggresive action, it will likely improve my chances of leaving the situation in a better position than I would otherwise.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17842123561228608863noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14473417.post-39469292271751240402009-10-24T01:59:10.524-07:002009-10-24T01:59:10.524-07:00Is their any Way to teach yourself
to deal with Ch...Is their any Way to teach yourself<br />to deal with Chaos? If not where besides Rory university can I learn this?ratmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14473417.post-26512164163278790542009-10-23T14:39:47.535-07:002009-10-23T14:39:47.535-07:00A small point, of which we have spoken a time or t...A small point, of which we have spoken a time or twelve:<br /><br />Here we have Rory, who has, based on a huge number of experiences, every reason to believe that when the shit hits the fan, he'll do something useful, but who isn't sure he will.<br /><br />And in this corner, Steve, who has only a couple of experiences and no overwhelming evidence to believe that when the shit hits the fan, he will do something useful, and who *is* sure he will.<br /><br />If you are gonna tell folks to avoid teaching 'em they'll get cut because that might undermind their confidence, what do you suppose telling 'em that a guy who has beat down more people than all the rest of us put together isn't sure he can do it again is apt to do for their confidence?<br /><br />I suspect it will introduce major doubt. Jeez, if he is worried he can't keep up, what chance do I have?<br /><br />Ever hear the Brother Dave Garner routine "When John Gets Here ... ?"Steve Perryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12079658447270792228noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14473417.post-27487335064608388932009-10-23T08:28:28.856-07:002009-10-23T08:28:28.856-07:00Wouldn't perfection mean you don't have to...Wouldn't perfection mean you don't have to change, learn, and all those other things that make life interesting?<br />Not saying you should settle for half-good or anything, but isn't adaption to change what drives us as a species?<br />So maybe perfection isn't the answer, as much as finding new things to perfect. And then maybe combine them?Illogichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08988660947978523357noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14473417.post-33396040840081761162009-10-23T07:54:51.474-07:002009-10-23T07:54:51.474-07:00My apologies for posting here, but I couldn't ...My apologies for posting here, but I couldn't find an email-link to use.<br />FYI:<br />In your "Links" section you have link-outs to "Loren" and "Patrick's website". Clicking on the links did not connect me to their sites.<br /><br />I found that my browser wouldn't automatically add "www." to the link you've specified when I clicked on the link, but would do so if I cut and pasted the link into a new tab or window.<br /><br />So, "lwcbooks.com" and "mokurendojo.com" will error out, but "www.lwcbooks.com" and "www.mokurendojo.com" will resolve correctly. You may want to edit those links to open in a new tab/window or just add "www." to them.<br /><br />Feel free to delete this post. :)Vironoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14473417.post-78773475465802413752009-10-23T00:48:13.503-07:002009-10-23T00:48:13.503-07:00Very profound thoughts tonight!Very profound thoughts tonight!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13474239229327570373noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14473417.post-23210123506940480052009-10-22T22:11:48.955-07:002009-10-22T22:11:48.955-07:00ThanksThanksAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17842123561228608863noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14473417.post-55291599393197657012009-10-22T21:59:37.563-07:002009-10-22T21:59:37.563-07:00I like what u say about "teaching the student...I like what u say about "teaching the student how to teach themselves". good post!Shang Leehttp://shanglee.com/blognoreply@blogger.com