tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14473417.post7653684104843575803..comments2024-03-28T03:31:42.278-07:00Comments on Chiron: EmotionRoryhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08483616030072739190noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14473417.post-40873067199207038192010-03-16T00:03:20.794-07:002010-03-16T00:03:20.794-07:00Dear Rory,
The books you describe--it depends on t...Dear Rory,<br />The books you describe--it depends on the book. I think this is particularly true in a lot of modern fiction. Much of this is like a factory after awhile, where best-selling authors are committed to writing a book every year. After awhile, they start phoning it in. <br /><br />There's no chance of renewal. It's a strong person who risks the contract for a new period of exploration. <br /><br />So, I often see this arc where people are putting their themes and craft together, then get close to perfection, and then start living off repeated paragraphs.<br /><br />But in part, to properly comment, I'd have to know which book you're discussing. :-)<br /><br />Ann T.Ann T.https://www.blogger.com/profile/11128699035211561119noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14473417.post-35393150208110408572010-03-10T20:15:24.970-08:002010-03-10T20:15:24.970-08:00The last paragraph in Rory's post reminds me o...The last paragraph in Rory's post reminds me of something that we have to teach rookies...<br /><br />It may be the twenty-fifth burglary (or whatever) that you've responded to. You see it every day as a cop. But, to the victim, it's the first. And it's big and important... no matter how minor, routine or silly it seems to you.<br /><br />We each experience events and emotions in the light of what we've seen and done before. It's dangerous to impute our experience on someone else...jks9199noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14473417.post-85619843359902053632010-03-09T19:00:33.414-08:002010-03-09T19:00:33.414-08:00So ... as a writer you are limited to writing abou...So ... as a writer you are limited to writing about things you have personally done or felt? Can't write about a villain who murders somebody unless you have murdered somebody? Can't write from the female head if you are a man, or vice-versa ... ?<br /><br />No extrapolation from smaller to larger?<br /><br />Just asking ...Steve Perryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12079658447270792228noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14473417.post-81705169245796355652010-03-09T10:01:45.428-08:002010-03-09T10:01:45.428-08:00You can't separate the emotion from the person...<i>You can't separate the emotion from the person from the conflict. You can, I suppose. Tell me how it works for you.</i><br />(1) I don't have time to figure out somebody's emotional state, although I probably have a good sense of it since I've been around human beings for my entire life. (2) Emotional state is not a good predictor of next action, because some people hit when they're angry while others hit when they're scared; some retreat when they're angry and so on. <br /><br /><i>We are all our own gold standards for what is acceptable emotion. </i><br />Except you can learn that you're not the gold standard. You can learn that you're exceptional and incorporate that into your perceptual and decision-making filters. Okay, maybe not everybody can, but I can, so it's possible. <br /><br /><i>The manipulator deflates and walks away mumbling, "What an asshole." </i><br />Yeah, no. That is not my experience. Because current standards for social/work behavior allow (even reward) passive aggressive behavior but punish active confrontation, in an office it's dangerous to confront. You could be the one disciplined or fired. (Notice that in public schools, the kid who quietly taunts, shoves his way to the head of the line, etc. doesn't get punished, but the kid who shouts at him to stop gets punished.) Even worse if the manipulator is the boss, or the office manager, and is supported for other reasons by higher management. What has worked for me is to be sympathetic to the manipulator: see them as human and show them I'm human too. Not only do I get better at tolerating and ignoring their moodiness and attempts to manipulate, they stop thinking of me as "one of them," relax a bit toward everybody (because they're getting sympathy) and act a little better. <br /><br /><i>Do not try to extrapolate from the embarrassing pimple you had in eighth grade to the terror of imminent annihilation.</i><br />This. But also, people respond differently to the same thing. And, this is what humans do: use our own experiences to extrapolate what other people's experiences are like, how we might react in the same circumstance. Getting it wrong is also human. <br /><br />When I read that stuff, I don't think "no, that's not how it works." I think, "I have trouble believing that response; what kind of a person would react like that? How else are they different from me?"Kai Joneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13319136737099550784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14473417.post-90685994764700036732010-03-09T04:16:28.189-08:002010-03-09T04:16:28.189-08:00Quote
"So in a normal office, there will be a...Quote<br />"So in a normal office, there will be a group of good people who get along... and one slimy, rumor-mongering deceptive manipulator. The manipulator will run roughshod over the nice people"<br />IMHE I find that the manipulator is that nice charming girl, who has a smile for everyone, and everybody things she is wonderful and hasn't got a bad word to say.......maybe there is a difference between a good manipulator and a bad oneAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14473417.post-48351248053420758212010-03-08T16:05:18.664-08:002010-03-08T16:05:18.664-08:00Ever compare the OODA loop to the old four humors?...Ever compare the OODA loop to the old four humors?<br /><br /> Observe= Melancholy<br /> Orient= Sanguine<br /> Decide= Choleric<br /> Act= Phelgmatic<br /><br />BruceAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com