tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14473417.post383137105257057793..comments2024-03-28T03:31:42.278-07:00Comments on Chiron: Depth and BreadthRoryhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08483616030072739190noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14473417.post-55921981508018152552011-04-30T12:02:20.988-07:002011-04-30T12:02:20.988-07:00Thanks for the reply Rory, i'll think on it so...Thanks for the reply Rory, i'll think on it some, lots to ponder there.<br /><br />"If the image in your head of a martial art is a place where people simulate committing stylized violence"...<br /><br />No, that's the definition I wish to avoid, I don't have a concrete definition of martial arts..but the above is definitely a version of it I try to avoid!<br /><br />". You can train while ignoring the world, but once you cease to ignore, you won't feel the same way about your training"<br /><br />Very nice, i'm writing that down somewhere to think about later.zzrzinnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06010338033926580987noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14473417.post-43915046589687417992011-04-29T14:27:04.821-07:002011-04-29T14:27:04.821-07:00The computer ate my original answer. Rat Bastard....The computer ate my original answer. Rat Bastard.<br /><br />Zach- This might be one of the areas where language gets weird. If the image in your head of a martial art is a place where people simulate committing stylized violence, then it is probably incompatible with taking a good hard look at the world... but if it is stylized simulation, is it really martial? Is it more art or pastime?<br /><br />Do people do both? Sure, some. But some stuff won't survive the transition. You can play children's games until you are old, but you can't preserve a child's feelings about those games. You can train while ignoring the world, but once you cease to ignore, you won't feel the same way about your training.<br /><br />It comes up, too, in your description of the worst case. I don't see many that really train for that. Instead they redefine the worst case scenario as a really skilled Monkey Dance... which is nowhere near the worst case and also exceedingly unlikely, requiring a superbly skilled and completely insecure fighter to happen.<br /><br />I guess I'm saying it depends on what you want to cling to.Roryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08483616030072739190noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14473417.post-68770402117726635042011-04-26T22:52:10.661-07:002011-04-26T22:52:10.661-07:00Hopefully this will make sense, I always like what...Hopefully this will make sense, I always like what you say, but I have some question..hopefully they make sense.<br /><br />I don't get how you can functionally teach this kind of more global thinking in a "martial arts" class, and then turn around and teach worse case scenario techniques, which is what much of the physical skills actually are. <br /><br />I guess what I wonder is HOW you can actually build in that kind of understanding to your average duration martial arts class, in a way that isn't in dischord with the fact that you ARE teaching mostly stuff that happens when all the other options are gone.<br /><br />I get the advice, and like most of what you put out there it's clearly very practical and deeply insightful..i'm just not sure how "martial artists" (i.e. those who do martial arts, but don't have your extensive experience with violence) can put that into practice in a practical way.<br /><br />"and remember that no matter who you train, in the really dark moment when he or she absolutely needs the skills, they will not be the eager student you know."<br /><br />That's the thing though, if you try to teach all this stuff that saves you long before the physical confrontation, and then most of what you do is train for that physical confrontation, it seems to create a real sort of cognitive dissonance in people.<br /><br />They should get it, but they don't..something just seems off to them.zzrzinnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06010338033926580987noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14473417.post-19500469326891349792011-04-26T15:55:23.329-07:002011-04-26T15:55:23.329-07:00Fabulous post Rory!!!
I am going to share this. Pe...Fabulous post Rory!!!<br />I am going to share this. People need to read and understandLise Steenersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05040510534717038918noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14473417.post-23731115841711163172011-04-26T14:48:42.199-07:002011-04-26T14:48:42.199-07:00Rory-
This might be simplistic a response.
Try t...Rory-<br />This might be simplistic a response. <br /><br />Try to see the whole, not focus on the parts.<br /><br />You have said much the samething before. I guess this is part of what reframing is rearranging pieces (words, ideas and principles) to see if we get a better or clearer understanding of the picture/puzzle.<br /><br />Hmmm...<br />JoshJosh Kruschkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09288700371539530398noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14473417.post-54741192936805859682011-04-26T08:39:33.739-07:002011-04-26T08:39:33.739-07:00This is good, thanks for sharing!This is good, thanks for sharing!Charles Jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13812618556413423872noreply@blogger.com