tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14473417.post4448925571118351815..comments2024-03-28T03:31:42.278-07:00Comments on Chiron: From Here to ThereRoryhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08483616030072739190noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14473417.post-26961597913424944252008-06-18T15:51:00.000-07:002008-06-18T15:51:00.000-07:00I had a thought about the idea of breaking pattern...I had a thought about the idea of breaking patterns. I think i understand your basic idea is not to get so locked into a Way that you can't adjust it if needs be. But it brings up a question about options:<BR/><BR/>Consider a baseball pitcher. He's on the mound, set to throw. Ordinarily, there's the look if there are runners on base, the wind-up, and the pitch. If, anywhere during the sequence, the motion is frozen and the query raised -- how would you throw a strike from here? then the answer is almost certainly going to be "Just like I intended."<BR/><BR/>Granted, at punching range, the striker has more options, but assuming that once action commences, he is moving as quickly and efficiently as he can to take his opponent out, why would freezing and asking the question be useful?<BR/><BR/>What else can I do if this fails? might be a good thing to consider, but if I'm already on the way to where I want to go as best I can see -- and why would I be doing it any other way? why do I want to freeze and think about it? <BR/><BR/>How I would take this guy out from this position is how I'm about to do it. If shit happens, then I'll do it a different way.Steve Perryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12079658447270792228noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14473417.post-41364251053920400762008-06-03T16:41:00.000-07:002008-06-03T16:41:00.000-07:00This sounds like it answers the questions Steve as...This sounds like it answers the questions Steve asked in the previous comments. Sounds like it boils down to a) know the flaw in your drills, and b) be sure to compensate for them in other drills with different flaws. Doesn't sound all that difficult, but Rory's experiences with a lot of different M.A. schools and instructors suggests that very few look at it that way.Mark Joneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01994430001543710190noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14473417.post-77165939327356656182008-06-03T14:04:00.000-07:002008-06-03T14:04:00.000-07:00And actually, if you think about it, the fully-sup...And actually, if you think about it, the fully-supinated punch would be better still -- uppercut, or sangsot, since the forearm bones are even better aligned ...Steve Perryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12079658447270792228noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14473417.post-7330382554479852142008-06-03T14:01:00.000-07:002008-06-03T14:01:00.000-07:00Now we are getting to the good stuff. Keep it goin...Now we are getting to the good stuff. <BR/><BR/>Keep it going ...<BR/><BR/>(There was a technical study in the quarterly 'zine *The Journal of Asian Martial Arts* a couple years back -- forgive me if I can't lay my hands on the issue at the moment -- regarding the twisted punch versus the flat punch. The conclusion was that the twisted -- fully-pronated punch -- was not stronger, but mechanically weaker, and somewhat more risky. <BR/><BR/>Anatomically-speaking, the flat punch keeps the forearm bones in line, while the twisted punch wraps the radius and ulna into a less-sturdy position. It is good for tearing, if you hold off on the twist until the impact, but doesn't deliver more energy per se if you measure direct impact, and is apt to result in a greater chance of injury to the puncher. <BR/><BR/>Just sayin' what I read ...)Steve Perryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12079658447270792228noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14473417.post-30325028371134354502008-06-03T11:10:00.000-07:002008-06-03T11:10:00.000-07:00The real reason the Okinawan styles use the pronat...The real reason the Okinawan styles use the pronated fist is because it it the strongest and most powerful position/method for breaking protected things. Its downside is leading center (shoulder & elbow). The vertical, Chinese, fist is designed for speed/surprise and as part of a strike 'package'. The bull vs the cat.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com