tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14473417.post8381089325026637071..comments2024-03-28T03:31:42.278-07:00Comments on Chiron: Re-Thinking the SeminarsRoryhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08483616030072739190noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14473417.post-74233235836013745002011-06-28T12:02:57.457-07:002011-06-28T12:02:57.457-07:00Been thinking about this a bit, especially in ligh...Been thinking about this a bit, especially in light of Christian’s comment.<br /><br />I think he’s right about the audience matter, but you matter too. As an instructor, there is only so much abuse your body and brain can reasonably take, and the more scenarios you do, the more chance stops favoring you.<br /><br />Balancing the benefits is hard. Honestly, I got way more out of the plastic mind drills than I did out of the scenarios. But I already had a lot of experience doing scenario work, and have access to the technology and the systems to run my own scenarios with students if I want to. Someone without that experience might feel differently.<br /><br />I guess I still come down on the side in favor of taking them out; make ‘em a separate thing. If you have the interest, train up some other roleplayers so that you don’t have to do everything at once.Jakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11379685641338041168noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14473417.post-33733547170751899102011-06-27T03:59:40.782-07:002011-06-27T03:59:40.782-07:00I think it really depends on the participants. If ...I think it really depends on the participants. If they never did scenario work before and have not experienced violence first hand, the emotional value to them will be very high, especially with full armor, so the material should be kept. If they have already done scenario work, and know the general experience of it, it is just about the specific situations, and there might be more value in your other material. Since the effort for preparation is very high, make the choice early by talking to the host of the seminar, and decide with him according to environment and needs.Christian Lemburghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02543712834496078630noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14473417.post-11009996547308320512011-06-23T18:30:19.819-07:002011-06-23T18:30:19.819-07:00I think we talked about this briefly some time ago...I think we talked about this briefly some time ago but I still think you should approach your seminar series from the idea of beginning with the end. <br /><br />What skills would you like every student to walk away with from a series of seminars. Think of it as a rubric or a sum of all curricula for you to hand over recognition of accomplishment. <br /><br />Then you organize your seminars according to the level of the students exposure to your training methods. You could, to some degree quantify or qualify the skill levels as a person gets better skilled. <br /><br />You could use the scenario training bit as a testing platform too. And the further people get along in the program the more they could be used by you for other scenario courses. The higher skill level classes would be a narrower crowd of people more than likely since they would effectively have prerequisites but I would pay a bit more for that. <br /><br />Worried about producing a product like this, don't make it easy. <br /><br />Of course the scenarios the related certificates of recognition could also be context based. That way you have law enforcement type with a context cert to help with that kind of programme. <br /><br />Anyway, it likely sounds complicated but it would be a pretty easy flow chart or skill tree I think.<br /><br />And of course, if you go with this idea I want to be first.Nick Guinnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00997786947810915793noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14473417.post-5436524807536591202011-06-21T23:51:52.407-07:002011-06-21T23:51:52.407-07:00Dont you dare take away the Jiujitsu broekn down i...Dont you dare take away the Jiujitsu broekn down in 15 mins bit.<br /><br />and the stuff on self actualization i didnt know until the seminar. and still doin research on it.<br /><br />keep it up.<br /><br />thank being said, extra time for blocks wouldnt hurt in the long run.Benhttp://obi_juan87@yahoo.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14473417.post-91622924795458719972011-06-21T05:45:31.519-07:002011-06-21T05:45:31.519-07:00First thought: I'm glad I got to you before y...First thought: I'm glad I got to you before you knew what you were doing!<br /><br />Back when I built and led Ropes Courses we had a saying which is a guideline for instigating change in the way participants view themselves, their group, and the world: 'maximum perceived risk, minimum actual risk.' <br /><br />For you this is going to be a tricky line--scattering bullets and broken glass on the floor before participants get to the venue (which is actually a stage but they don't know that) has the potential to inspire...fear, awakeness, safety, craziness, passion, memories, ....it depends how you facilitate it.<br /><br />I hope you keep changing. But I would attend an all scenarios experiment class...especially if I get some 'bad guy' time!Scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04771944484286659825noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14473417.post-22988190605841943042011-06-20T20:04:53.866-07:002011-06-20T20:04:53.866-07:00I'd agree with what I'm seeing other say. ...I'd agree with what I'm seeing other say. Scenario training is invaluable and fun and all that... but it's hard to do right, let alone do well. It's impossible to do without a good team as role players and as coaches/instructors, which includes the safety officer.<br /><br />Set that up as a separate specific seminar option. Maybe even put a team together so it's a package deal. I think any other way of doing any serious scenario training is an invitation for something to go really wrong sometime...Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15393212692342514984noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14473417.post-85087575639781201352011-06-20T18:09:27.907-07:002011-06-20T18:09:27.907-07:00Just an idea.
Maybe at certain times, through ou...Just an idea. <br /><br />Maybe at certain times, through out the year, we could rent out a space closed to your base of operations, and make a weekend seminar dealing with scenarios. This way you can have time to plan and insure that there are enough qualified scenario actors.<br /><br />Just a though, I'm not sure if this would be something people would get behind.<br /><br />:-)<br />JoshJosh Kruschkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09288700371539530398noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14473417.post-44121863515459548582011-06-20T17:50:39.585-07:002011-06-20T17:50:39.585-07:00Emotional content, context and expression. Seek t...Emotional content, context and expression. Seek to create, and allow expression of the opening moves of the monkey dance. If physical expression is needed, use the shoulder slap as that and the scenario end signal (like tapping out, only on the other person, not on your own leg, for instance).<br /><br />Ask Rory sometime about boxing 12 people in a row. FUN!Machttp://quantumdonuts.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14473417.post-45498537339565541352011-06-20T14:46:45.523-07:002011-06-20T14:46:45.523-07:00Sounds like a good format to me too. Scenarios can...Sounds like a good format to me too. Scenarios can be fun, but I think it is quite a bit for you to handle byself in that type of setting.Waynehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09442291413404618813noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14473417.post-31692432876055995422011-06-20T10:11:16.298-07:002011-06-20T10:11:16.298-07:00Seems like a really good way to ensure that folks ...Seems like a really good way to ensure that folks have really understood previous levels. Only concern is the time-lag between levels. If someone hasn't been "practicing" or reviewing stuff for 6-8 months and wants to come to class #2, can you get them back up to speed succinctly?Josh Leegerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13320183337789459104noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14473417.post-15590054480563983612011-06-20T08:00:11.379-07:002011-06-20T08:00:11.379-07:00I thought the scenarios were hugely useful, but ha...I thought the scenarios were hugely useful, but have no idea how you manage to recover from so many in one day ....!<br />Also, it seems that the greatest impact is from the first time when you have no idea what to expect.<br />Another thought is that I think it would be very useful for you to be able to observe from the outside, so having more trained bad guys would be a logical next step ... which then leads to having it as a separate event where that is an option, or a special training for individuals where you can be the BG, but tailor to the needs of the student ... and also keep the other scenarios up your sleeve ....Maijahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18264657619197571965noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14473417.post-52104958000443218702011-06-20T07:59:03.642-07:002011-06-20T07:59:03.642-07:00Question: When can/will you come to Austin TX to ...Question: When can/will you come to Austin TX to run any program?tvnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14473417.post-65248995833026164312011-06-20T07:23:00.544-07:002011-06-20T07:23:00.544-07:00Makes sense to me. I wouldn't want to be the b...Makes sense to me. I wouldn't want to be the bad guy (primary threat) for twenty scenarios in a row.<br /><br />The Plastic Mind stuff is cool, and could use more time.Jakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11379685641338041168noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14473417.post-63893036350690054722011-06-20T07:03:35.366-07:002011-06-20T07:03:35.366-07:00The last item - "scenarios for specific indiv...The last item - "scenarios for specific individuals", sound like a good solution. I have attended and conducted my fair share of seminars, and it seems that the scenario type work can be very well used as an illustration of ideas covered during the seminar. I believe, in a two-day event, you might actually note a couple of people who would be able to offer the level of performance on the second day in a way that would provide just enough understanding for the "general population"... This is just my two cents on the subject, although you certainly do not seem to be in the need of much advice :-)Dragan Milojevichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13503964804868147781noreply@blogger.com