It's not simple enough, however, to process cognitively when you are under attack. Take a good class on self defense law. Read your local statutes (and if you can't find them, current jury instructions). If this is your job, read your policy and procedure at least twice a year. Force law and policy is one of those things where knowing isn't good enough, you must understand.
Read to make sure it makes sense to you. Read to find anywhere that your personal ethics don't jibe with the rules. And absolutely read to see if you are training outside the rules. There is always a possibility that anyone who uses force might end up in prison. To deliberately train TO go to prison is stupid and completely avoidable. Finding these glitches and working them out lays the groundwork for something else, something important.
Most people, if they have a will to survive and an ethical base, make very good force decisions. The problem is that it is often easier to make a good decision than to explain a good decision. You will be expected, even required, to explain a subconscious, lightning-fast decision as if it was the product of extensive tactical and moral deliberation.
Most of your decisions will be good. Most of your articulations will be crap. Unless you not only learn but practice.
Oakland.
The scenario is a potential build-up to a 'bonding group monkey dance' (BGMD). The principal (student) is a nice guy, intelligent. I've seen his good tactical awareness and martial skills all weekend. The goal of the scenario is to push to see if he recognizes the important decision points, to see whether he runs or fight and to have him explain his decisions to the peer jury.
We come on the scene as three young, slightly drunk men, talking and laughing. Size him up. He looks interesting, might be some fun. We start talking, getting closer. The principal maintains his distance, keeps his hands in an unobstrusive 'fence' position and tries to take himself out of our social dynamic by saying a few words in what sounds like Russian.
I pounce on that, talking back in Russian, introducing M, who speaks more than I do. The principal backs up. I close and reach out. He y-strikes me in the throat, starts to run, returns, tries to run the other way, engages briefly with one of the others. I turn on him. He launches a roundhouse kick into my ribs. I take him down.
The safety calls the safety word and we stop. We are on the ground, too close to obstructions. It's a good point to end it anyway.
It is time for the principal to explain his actions tactically and legally-- especially a pre-emptive strike to the throat, something my lawyers are certain to characterize as deadly force.
Other than the running away and running back, which was almost certainly a subconscious response to 'this is training, I can't just leave' no decisions here were necessarily bad. But the decisions needed to be explained in such a way that a jury, most of whom haven't been in a fight since junior high, can understand why there was no choice. That sort of explaining is a skill.
Even led through the important points (Intent, Means, Opportunity, Preclusion; factors and circumstances that increased the danger) it was hard for the principal to put it into words.
We talked about it with the whole class: Remember, WE were the bad guys here. The three of us. He was waiting for his train, minding his own business. WE approached HIM. WE closed the distance. We had every intention of "having a little fun." But turning to the peer jury a rambling, indecisive explanation made the actions look doubtful. As Lawdog wrote; "A good report can't make a bad shoot into a good shoot, but a shitty report can turn a good shoot into a bad shoot."
The nail in the coffin, this is what I, as the bad guy, would have told a jury:
"Me and my friends were just out having a good time, you know? We were in a good mood, looking to catch the last train and we saw this dude just standing there so we thought we'd say 'hi' and the dude started talking in Russian, so I thought, "Cool, I know a little Russian and M is from that part of the world and speaks some so I said 'Hi' like, in Roosky, and the dude started acting really weird like with his hands up and acting all agitated so I put my hands up to try to calm him down and WHAM out of nowhere he chops me in the throat and I started gagging and couldn't breath. Then he runs and I know he told you he was running away but it looked like he was running right at M and M is a little guy and doesn't see to well so I grabbed the dude from behind to pull him off and he kicked me some kind of karate kick so I think he was a really dangerous martial artist and the kick hurt so I just grabbed on to the leg and we fell down..."
I have extensive practice explaining this stuff, both in the dry, boring report form of a Use of Force Report: "The subject (6'2" 234 pounds) raised his clench fist and said "I'm going to kill you, motherfucker" I noticed that his lips were drawn back showing his teeth and he was sweating. I stepped in quickly with my left foot and raised my right hand catching the arm he was threatening me with under the armpit and turning his body..."
And also in the emotional vein I have heard from so many bad guys justifying their actions. By the time the peer jury heard my story (the observable things in the story were true) they were on my side. Damn.
Doing things right is the first step. You also need to explain them. He should have won the articulation war. He was in the right. He was the good guy. It was just a part that I had trained and he (and almost all martial artists) had not.
I'm not going to go into all the details of articulation here. Don't have the time or the space. But be aware that the hole exists and start thinking about it now.
I am never disappointed yet I do have a wish, a wish this had been available about thirty years ago...thanks! You and Mr. MacYoung do get my brain to churn a bit...
ReplyDeleteGreat points. I just testified in a Federal Jury trial in a use-of-force case. Explaining why you did what you did, when you did, years after the actual incident, was a whole different experience then just writing a use-of-force report...
ReplyDeleteEven with an incident captured almost entirely on video, the explanation of what you saw and why it cause a reaction make a big difference.
I've given this some thought in the back of my mind, but have started thinking about it more actively. I'm also trying to see how I can get this across in a limited time frame when I do my handgun safety course. I might have to start offering a second class just in topics like this to those interested.
ReplyDeleteI've had to do a use-of-force complaint when my family and I was attacked by 3 guys. I killed two of them and severely injured the other one.
ReplyDeleteIt's shocking to me sometimes how many people who purport to teach self-defense don't think about this part of the fight.
ReplyDeleteI had an instructor approach me after one seminar I did and complain that I spent too much time talking about all that "legal stuff" (mostly because his guys seemed to have a tendency wrap up their "defense" by doing a Mexican hat dance on the bad guy's face...).
In fairness, the lack of attention given to this probably stems from most people's tendency to just parrot what their instructor said and did without ever investigating the subject on their own...
Articulation is a vital skill. I've seen too many cops write themselves into stupidity when they did right.. or just plain leave you wondering what the hell they did.
ReplyDeleteHow important can it be? Well, I lost a stupid traffic case with a real prick because I failed to articulate one key thing... I'd only cited the guy for "disobeying a highway sign, to wit, the speed limit." I did beautiful job painting the picture, describing how I followed him for several blocks, how fast he was going, that my cruiser was calibrated, etc. Except I forgot to mention the 3 speed limit signs he passed. Judge found the guy not guilty.
And the only thing at hazard there was a traffic ticket. Imagine if I had been trying to justify shooting someone, and neglected a detail like his history of fighting cops or the knife in his hand...
It's important to learn how to paint the picture in your testimony or your statements to the police about something so that they can put themselves in your shoes -- and not to assume that they know what you mean. I've run across this in grand jury all the time. (Our regular grand jury is just the cop appearing before a panel of citizens who decides whether there's probable cause to go to trial. Generally -- if you fail to get a true bill -- you failed to articulate anything at all. It's kind of stacked in our favor, y'know...) Sometimes, they'll ask the most bizarre questions because THEY REALLY DON'T KNOW! They don't know what "a little weed" is or what "an eightball of coke" looks like.
I've had that same argument on spending too much time/effort on legal stuff... Usually you get some variant of the "better to be tried by 12 than carried by 6" line.
ReplyDeleteMy response is usually simple: It's even better to avoid being tried at all. And knowing the rules, and thinking about them ahead of time, gives you the best chance to avoid a trial.
First, sorry for the anonymous, just don't have any of the id's that would allow me to leave my name and for what is likely a one off question, can't be bothered taking the time to create one.
ReplyDeleteNow,
"I pounce on that, talking back in Russian, introducing M, who speaks more than I do. The principal backs up. I close and reach out. He y-strikes me in the throat, starts to run,"
Okay, this may be one of those situations where the written word leaves open too much room for interpretation. Because when I read the above, all I thought was, 'A freaking throat strike as a preemptive when there has been no explicit threat you could prove?! So the guy goes down barely able to breath (won't always happen, just Devils advocate), the medics are called...Hell yeah you will need Art. You will need it coming out of your ass to justify what you just did!'
But, as I said, that was how I interpreted your description of the scenario, and I might be way, way off. Could you elaborate?
@Jim
ReplyDeleteMan, I wish I had even gotten that comment. What I got was "we just tell our students to explain to cops what happened."
Because, y'know, it's that easy. Can't imagine why I didn't think of that.